St. Cloud listening session
The St. Cloud listening session was Feb. 23 at the Kelly Inn. Here are participants' comments:
What’s working well?
- Co-curricular activities create camaraderie.
- Schools are accepting of everyone.
- Broad, varied options exist in our public schools.
- Teacher leaders are taking the reins in a positive way in schools.
- Good graduation rates.
- Excellent professionals at all levels.
- Adequate professional development, when implemented properly, works wonders for the quality of teaching and learning.
- Educators work hard to meet goals.
What are some of the challenges schools face?
- We need positive leadership, from President Bush on down, to support education.
- One-size-fits all, old model no longer applies. Diversity, multiple needs, education gaps make a one-size-fits-all mentality obsolete.
- Discrepancy between public/private schools – mandates on public schools only is unfair.
- Mental health issues – problems of society come into schools; counseling needs are greater.
- Over-scheduling students – 10 minutes for lunch, start time should not be before 8 a.m., kids need down time – too pushed, lack of proper nutrition and fresh air and water.
- Schools have to cover too much – schedule is too crammed.
- Balance start time with parents’ need to get to work; we start lunch at 10 a.m. to accommodate 900 in one building.
- Need smaller class size!
- Funding: review and throw out mandates; eliminate NCLB – inflexible, unrealistic, designed to make schools fail.
- It’s like telling the Vikings to win every game and then do better next year.
- Need accountability-not a positive attitude.
- Skills can’t be checked off with a test.
- Mandates – under-funded, non-funded, formulas did not work.
- Economic slide – penalizing large districts because of concentration of special education cross-subsidy; can’t afford it.
- Can’t test success; size of schools and numbers of student per teacher; assembly line model; how do we measure relationships?
- Parental control and involvement – different from “tail wagging the dog;” conversations are “not pretty” about schools in restaurants and parks of Minnesota.
- Perception that schools not listening; people are angry; people not coming to support schools because they are livid.
- Meetings –nobody there; hard to get info out; wrong info gets out.
- Schools do a terrible job informing public of how to build teacher/student relationships in mega-schools.
- Need more parental responsibility/relationships (emphasizing, among other things, manners with kids); it’s a different world; nobody at home to be involved with our kids
- Discipline now seems to be “it’s not my kid’s fault.” What did teachers do to make you act that way? Parents shifting burden of upbringing to schools.
- Unrealistic environment – how do 13-year-olds socialize with 13-year-olds? Group-think and gang mentality; no control at home or at school; “kids running the school/zoo.”
What do we want schools to do?
- Everything!
- Results – proposed for citizenship/workforce/higher ed so students can be productive citizens; should not have to “re-do” high school in college.
- Citizenship/ethics: moral issues/ability to get along and socialize; being self-sufficient.
- Not dependent on government and family, etc. Depend on “self”; kids should have goals and value education.
- Critical thinking skills.
- Make choices appropriately.
- Being able to read/write does not guarantee a job.
- Kids need basic social goals.
- We can predict prison population by literacy scores. What does that tell you?
- Do something that brings about self-esteem (like hard work) rather than just talking about self-esteem.
How do we achieve these goals?
- Emphasis on school size; relationships; make students feel connected.
- Reduce or fully fund the mandates.
- Fully fund special education needs.
- Establish/increase number of counselors per student at elementary.
- Early Childhood support.
- Family interventions.
- Fund the institution – lots of money follows the student.
- Less government involvement – level playing field.
- Unfair handicap of public schools vs. private schools.
- Small schools – everyone needed in teams – parents know each other and teachers.
- Invite people back to the table.
- Work with universities and students; tap into college student resource; students work at schools; gain credits, knowledge and resources.
- Frustrating changes, rapid change in school; opportunities now/challenges now.
- Go beyond education majors to recruit talented students.
- Get more business people in schools. Teach mini classes/guest teach/bring them in; might prompt cambers of commerce to work harder for levy referendums and might promote valuing of community schools.
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