St. Cloud listening session

The St. Cloud listening session was Feb. 23 at the Kelly Inn. Here are participants' comments:

What’s working well?

  • Co-curricular activities create camaraderie.
  • Schools are accepting of everyone.
  • Broad, varied options exist in our public schools.
  • Teacher leaders are taking the reins in a positive way in schools.
  • Good graduation rates.
  • Excellent professionals at all levels.
  • Adequate professional development, when implemented properly, works wonders for the quality of teaching and learning.
  • Educators work hard to meet goals.

What are some of the challenges schools face?

  • We need positive leadership, from President Bush on down, to support education.
  • One-size-fits all, old model no longer applies. Diversity, multiple needs, education gaps make a one-size-fits-all mentality obsolete.
  • Discrepancy between public/private schools – mandates on public schools only is unfair.
  • Mental health issues – problems of society come into schools; counseling needs are greater.
  • Over-scheduling students – 10 minutes for lunch, start time should not be before 8 a.m., kids need down time – too pushed, lack of proper nutrition and fresh air and water.
  • Schools have to cover too much – schedule is too crammed.
  • Balance start time with parents’ need to get to work; we start lunch at 10 a.m. to accommodate 900 in one building.
  • Need smaller class size!
  • Funding: review and throw out mandates; eliminate NCLB – inflexible, unrealistic, designed to make schools fail.
  • It’s like telling the Vikings to win every game and then do better next year.
  • Need accountability-not a positive attitude.
  • Skills can’t be checked off with a test.
  • Mandates – under-funded, non-funded, formulas did not work.
  • Economic slide – penalizing large districts because of concentration of special education cross-subsidy; can’t afford it.
  • Can’t test success; size of schools and numbers of student per teacher; assembly line model; how do we measure relationships?
  • Parental control and involvement – different from “tail wagging the dog;” conversations are “not pretty” about schools in restaurants and parks of Minnesota.
  • Perception that schools not listening; people are angry; people not coming to support schools because they are livid.
  • Meetings –nobody there; hard to get info out; wrong info gets out.
  • Schools do a terrible job informing public of how to build teacher/student relationships in mega-schools.
  • Need more parental responsibility/relationships (emphasizing, among other things, manners with kids); it’s a different world; nobody at home to be involved with our kids
  • Discipline now seems to be “it’s not my kid’s fault.” What did teachers do to make you act that way? Parents shifting burden of upbringing to schools.
  • Unrealistic environment – how do 13-year-olds socialize with 13-year-olds?  Group-think and gang mentality; no control at home or at school; “kids running the school/zoo.”

What do we want schools to do?

  • Everything!
  • Results – proposed for citizenship/workforce/higher ed so students can be productive citizens; should not have to “re-do” high school in college.
  • Citizenship/ethics: moral issues/ability to get along and socialize; being self-sufficient.
  • Not dependent on government and family, etc. Depend on “self”; kids should have goals and value education.  
  • Critical thinking skills.
  • Make choices appropriately.
  • Being able to read/write does not guarantee a job.
  • Kids need basic social goals.
  • We can predict prison population by literacy scores. What does that tell you?
  • Do something that brings about self-esteem (like hard work) rather than just talking about self-esteem.

How do we achieve these goals?

  • Emphasis on school size; relationships; make students feel connected.
  • Reduce or fully fund the mandates.
  • Fully fund special education needs.
  • Establish/increase number of counselors per student at elementary.
  • Early Childhood support.
  • Family interventions.
  • Fund the institution – lots of money follows the student.
  • Less government involvement – level playing field.
  • Unfair handicap of public schools vs. private schools.
  • Small schools – everyone needed in teams – parents know each other and teachers.
  • Invite people back to the table.
  • Work with universities and students; tap into college student resource; students work at schools; gain credits, knowledge and resources.
  • Frustrating changes, rapid change in school; opportunities now/challenges now.
  • Go beyond education majors to recruit talented students.
  • Get more business people in schools. Teach mini classes/guest teach/bring them in; might prompt cambers of commerce to work harder for levy referendums and might promote valuing of community schools.

 



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